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高低奥马哈学习点滴

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rahj 发表于 2017-7-18 10:39:27 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
我很中意去学O8这个游戏,不单单是因为职业牌手最有可能高估自己的O8水平,而且十分有趣.而单单是在牌桌上战胜高手的乐趣,就足以让我投入精力去研究和研磨O8,更何况O8是华裔牌手的看家本领,城的创始人老大和老邱都熟捻与此,老大在O8中的造诣更是有目共睹,也给我不少的底气.

我本人是打现场现金入门的,自然而然更愿意去打O8 cash,但是O8偏隅一方,扎根于美国,现场估计没得太多机会打.好在东边不亮西边亮,有网络扑克,总有的局切磋,也省时间于路上,何乐而不为之.

我首选平台是博狗,其实不是个好选择,有三大弊端,好在也有三大优势:底牌\返水\匿名.

在博狗上初学PLO8靠得就是打的时候靠HUD,不会看错牌,复盘的时候看到底牌,当然HUD是个双刃剑,是扶手但是很多东西必须自己算,就好比下棋的人,本有业余初段,用多了形势判断和点目,就只能算作2k了.

选定平台后,级别到不是个问题,常规桌从1/2打上去就是,O8短手桌打的action很多,锅很大,桌面动态丰富,这对读牌能力强的人而言是个good game.

我在教学实践中慢慢发现,自学玩家适合满员桌起步,利用紧手可自动获利不至于染上恶习,而有人指点上路则单挑为最优选择.就我个人而言也是尝试过单挑德州扑克后才发现自身的瓶颈.

回到高低奥马哈,我认为单挑可以提高玩家的读牌分析能力,能更好的去关注一个玩家,研究打法模型和特征识别,涉及到抽水(这在PLO8中尤为重要),单挑SNG比单挑cash更合适,我去年打单挑SNG战绩尚可,时间投资回报比高于常规桌,但是由于免费插件牌谱不能导入HM2,所以玩的不是很多,好在现在想起还有个Bovada Card Catcher的复盘组合,问题倒不是很大.
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老大帖子www.zhiyoucheng.co/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=5728提到新手从9人桌,低级别入手,我认为对初学玩家都是原则性问题.我PLO8也是遵循这个原则缓缓升级,打到0.5/1后才更多涉足6人牌桌,6Max总体说要更凶,action也会更多.

PS:我今晨梦中所得,PLO8短手桌偷盲效果不如O8短手桌的偷盲,不知所谓,还想请老大指点.

O8/PLO8的低级别9人桌,其实是个solved game,用个中国足球常用的口号就是保平争胜,也就是make nut on one side and freeroll on the other side,或者说拿nuts low去freeroll对手的hi,或者拿nuts hi 去freeroll对手的low,本质就是nuts和freeroll以确保scoop.

具体到O8,则是要保证:翻前紧,翻后要更紧,多玩可玩性高的起手牌.翻后更紧是其中的关键,老大帖子中以顶暗三为例说明翻牌圈打法,老邱也谈过,转牌圈三同花,只有A同花和顶暗三是唯二两手可以坚持的高牌.

限注德州扑克里面翻牌圈最佳的跟注比率大概为20%,我猜想O8中也不应该高于这个值,特别是位处中位被包夹,后面的情况不明时.

说到位置,限注扑克我实战打的不多理解可能也不够透彻,这个位置和限注扑克的特点有关.老邱和老大都提过O8的特点和本质是高频率剥削小优势,偶尔通过诈唬剥削大优势.

对于O8而言,后位挺好的,特别是在多人底池中,前位也不错,而中位比较尴尬,降低入池人数和保持锅的大小这两项很难调和,涉及到flop后的操作,比较复杂.

举例:A236ss这手牌,在9人,5人,单挑中的打法迥异,于玩家所处的位置以及之前的行动更有着很强的联系.

以前我只把它当作quarter A2/A3轮子的一手牌,主打多人锅,很少加注,有利位置也只是跟着limp入池,现在我有了不同的看法,it's depend on a lot of things.
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几个问题

昨天刚得了一本书,Ray Zee的High-Low-Split Poker, Seven-Card Stud and Omaha Eight-Or-Better for Advanced Players,还不知道写的如何.

序言中谈及正文写了不少关于短手桌的要诀,老大也提及:而(O8)5人桌以下则主要是stealing/defending blinds and value betting marginal hands. 后者跟holdem及其他所几乎所有"button"牌局类似,因此我打算深入了解下O8短手桌的打法,不知可否指点一二.

盲注攻防希望通过单挑SNG来掌握,毕竟说到边缘牌,高低奥马哈我处理的会更有把握一些.

单挑中,BTN的单边跛腿牌和双边边缘牌应该如何处理呢,按照牌理,似乎单边牌应该limp入池为主,我PLO8中也是如此,偶尔平衡一下.但是有限注扑克的下注方式决定,翻牌圈下注给对方合适的赔率去跟注,那么是否单边跛腿牌也可以(应该)加注入池?

这样能在击中翻牌面的基础上,由于加注open的范围强于BB跟注的范围,我方cbet可以匹配这一个尺度的下注,而且不用担心赔率不合适对方弃牌.
PS:我今晨梦中所得,PLO8短手桌偷盲效果不如O8短手桌的偷盲,不知所谓,还想请老大指点.

路漫漫而修远兮 by 有来有去


1748 发表于 2017-7-18 10:52:55 | 显示全部楼层
有志者事必成!祝你早出成果!
 楼主| rahj 发表于 2017-7-26 20:27:30 | 显示全部楼层
ignition的常规高低桌子平时也开不起来,只能通过玩玩sng弥补下手数
看来是时候转战PS平台了.
 楼主| rahj 发表于 2017-7-28 13:07:34 | 显示全部楼层
10天前,我曾经提到单边跛腿牌例如纯高牌应该如何处理的问题。
现在我对多人桌这个问题有了较为清晰的认识。
在多人桌,这种牌还是应该以limp为主,除非你在大盲且已经进来了很多玩家的情况下,很少有加注或者加注limp的选项,毕竟就算是顶set打多人池没有redraw还是会很别扭,即便flop只有一张小牌。
单挑情况比较复杂,不能简单说是应该希望对方跟注还是弃牌,翻前策略要视对手情况特别是翻后倾向而定。
如果对方翻后较紧,有利位置跛脚牌加注开池比较合适,如果对方翻后较松,在一张小牌的flop也不会放弃自己的lo draw,那么limp入池更为容易灵活处理。
 楼主| rahj 发表于 2017-8-1 17:45:37 | 显示全部楼层
High-Low-Split Poker中,奥马哈高低部分问答环节的中英文对照翻译

GENERAL CONCEPTS
1. What should you normally try to do before the flop?
Get in cheaply.
Q1 你翻前应该做的事情是?
A1 便宜看翻牌。
2. Why would you put in a lot of money early?
Usually to knock out players so you have a positional advantage.
Q2你翻前放钱进锅的主要动机是?
A2 赶走后面的玩家,获取位置优势,甚至赶走盲注,给锅里弄些死钱。
3. What is the big decision?
To analyze the flop and understand how it relates to your hand and whether you should play
on.
Q3 什么是最重要的环节?
A3 分析翻牌、理解翻牌与手牌之间的联系以及决定是否继续玩这首牌。
4. What do most people do in this game?
They tend to play too loose after the flop.
Q4 绝大部分玩家的游戏策略是?
A4 他们喜欢翻后玩的松(特别是底池很小时)
5. When a lot of players take the flop, what must you have to continue?
The nut low draw, the nut low made
with
redraws,
or a very strong high hand.
Q5 一群玩家看翻牌,你继续玩下去的条件?
A5 坚果低听牌,坚果低加redraws(或者抵消张),一手很强的高牌。(一般出了低牌面,非坚果高牌意义不大)
6. What is one of the big skill factors in this game?
Understanding how the other players play their hands and playing your hand accordingly.
Q6 高低的一大关键因素?
A6 理解其他玩家玩牌的方式,并随之调整你的策略。
7. What is the secret of this game?
To have the nuts with draws to better hands.
Q7 这个游戏的奥秘?
A7 坚果牌带redraws。
8. What does this mean?
That it is important to have all four of your cards working well together so you have back-
door possibilities.
Q8 这意味着什么?
A8 奥马哈的4张手牌需要紧密的联系在一起,以保证你有后门听牌的可能。(A很关键,有其他低牌时A可以当两张牌,789T这4张牌很差,要尽量避免)
9. What will this sometimes allow you to do?
To take some pots back or, at times, to three-quarter your opponent instead of splitting the
pot.
Q9 有单边nuts而另一边也有听牌可以做什么?
A9 有时能scoop底池(高低通吃),有时能四分对手(对手只赢下1/4底池),而不是平分底池(除去抽水你只能拿回你投入底池的钱)。

P
OSITION
1. Do you play many hands up front?
No, as there is too much jamming.
Q1 你是否能在前位玩很多手牌?
A1 不能,太多行动。(翻后你在中间容易被包夹)
2. What does this mean?
That you should play only the absolute premium hands in early position.
Q2 这意味着什么?
A2 你在前位只能玩强牌(如AA23等)
3. What if the game is tight?
You will want to play few hands up front and to steal a lot of pots in the back.
Q3 如果游戏很紧呢?
A3 你前位要玩更少的牌,而后位需要多偷底。
4. What if the game is loose?
Stealing becomes unimportant, as you virtually never have the opportunity to try it.
Q4 如果游戏很松呢?
A4 偷底已经不重要了,你没机会去偷。
5. You still expect action when you attempt to steal from late position, so why do you want to
play a lot of weaker hands from this spot?
Many players won't play without ace-deuce, ace-trey, or some other big hand. This means
that you frequently will end up playing against the blinds, who will take a flop with a weak
hand to see what is out there.
Q5 当你在后位偷底时已经意识到会遭遇抵抗,为何你还要用弱牌和边缘牌去偷底呢?
A5 大部分玩家没有A2/A3和其他大牌就不跟加注,这意味着你经常是对抗盲注玩家,如果盲注玩家希望用弱牌跟注看翻牌。
注:O8本身的特点决定盲注更容易跟注

LOW HANDS
1. When many people have entered the pot, why is playing a hand that just contains ace-deuce or
ace-trey not enough?
Because you often will get quartered, unless your opponents are very bad players.
Q1 当很多玩家进入底池,为何只玩A2/A3是不够的?
A1 因为你经常被四分,除非你对手很差。(比如庄位玩4567)
2. In multiway pots, what hands do you want?
Hands that have a third low card, such as ace-deuce-trey or ace-deuce-four, or four low
cards with the ace in your hand.
Q2 在多人底池,你倾向玩什么牌?
A2 有抵消张的低牌,例如A23/A24(A带2张轮子牌)
3. What often occurs in multiway pots?
A lot of the low hands get counterfeited by one of your low cards coming out on fourth or
fifth street.
Q3 多人底池常发生什么情况?
A3 低牌在转牌或者河牌被抵消。(出了A或者2)
4. How do you play tremendous low hands, such as three or four low cards that also might be
suited up?
You don't mind putting in more money early because much of the time you will flop a low
hand or a draw to a low hand.
Q4 有3、4张轮子牌加同花的至尊低牌应该怎么玩?
A4 放钱进去!
注:老大说,这种强牌打多人锅合适,双同花也是对手越多越好,前位没位置没必要加注,如果是盲位别人已经进来了,加注即可。
5. How do you now play if a lot of money goes in early?
You should take a card off to see fourth street, even when the flop is not very favorable.
Q5 如果钱投进来了怎么打?
A5 如果翻牌不理想,你也应该积极看转牌。
6. What if high cards come early?
There rarely will be more than one high hand with strength, so it is unlikely that you will
get jammed.
Q6 如果flop来了高牌咋办?
A6 往往来了高牌而有质量的高手牌不多,因此不怕被包夹
7. What if low cards come?
The high hand will get jammed in.
Q7 如果低牌来了咋办?
A7 高手牌就难办了(低手牌会下注加注再加注cap)
8. What is a general rule to remember?
Jammed pots when low cards flop usually mean several low draws.
Q8 有啥总则好记?
A8 当flop出了两张低牌,一个很多行动的底池意味着几个玩家手上有低牌听牌。
9. In medium- to high-stakes games, is an ace-deuce automatically a giant hand?
No, it is not the kind of hand to wait for.
Q9 中高额游戏,A2是否就一定是好牌?
A9 不是!
10. Is this true at the low-stakes games?
No, as there are almost always players who consistently draw at the third and fourth (or
even worse) low hands.
Q10 那低额游戏呢?
A10 A2是好牌,因为总有坚定地听非坚果低的玩家在里面。
11. In a high-stakes game, when would you be more willing to play a dry ace-deuce?
When there is a "live one" in the pot.
Q11 在高额游戏中,你玩不玩裸A2?
A11 只要有鱼儿在就玩。
 楼主| rahj 发表于 2017-8-1 19:44:19 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 rahj 于 2017-8-1 21:37 编辑

注明:括号中为自己为帮助理解而加上的注释

HIGH HANDS
1. How do high hands perform in situations where no low card or only one comes on the flop?
Well.
1 如果至多一张低牌出现在翻牌面上,高手牌的表现如何?
1 很好。
2. What if two or three low cards come on the flop?
The high hands now do poorly.
2 如果两张以上的低牌出现在翻牌上呢?
2 高手牌就很差了。
3. In what type of games do high hands do well?
In games where the pot is not raised before the flop.
3 哪些游戏中高手牌可玩性很高呢?
3 翻前底池不大的那类游戏。
4. Why?
Because it is more likely than not that two low cards will flop, meaning that most flops are
going to be unplayable.
4 为何?
4 因为没两张低牌出现,意味着除了高牌能继续下去的牌不多。
5. Suppose you flop top set but two low cards are also on board?
Your hand often will be in trouble, because low straights and flushes are fairly easy to
make.
5 假定翻牌出最大暗三的时候有两张小牌,怎么玩?
5 桌面出现两张小牌带追同花,你的大暗三要看你的位置,因为这个牌面有听顺子甚至同花的可能性。(如果没有位置,要更谨慎的行事,而没有redraw的小暗三,没低牌听牌可以丢了)
6. What does this mean?
You want to play more high hands in games where it does not cost much to see the flop.
6 高牌咋玩?
6 尽可能的便宜的有位置的玩。(没位置你不知道看翻牌的成本)
7. What if the action is not multiway?
It doesn't matter whether you get in cheaply, because high hands play well short-handed.
7 如果单挑怎么玩高牌?
7 单挑中高牌表现不错,便宜与否关系不大。(单挑见之前的讨论)
8. Why do suited high hands do well in tight games?
Because three low cards don't always appear. When they do come, they may not make your
opponents' hands.
8 为何同花高牌在紧的游戏中更有价值?
8 因为三张低牌不总是在翻牌出现,就算出现,你对手也未必有低的成手牌。
9. What do you want to avoid?
Playing when it looks as though other people might be counterfeiting your hand.
9 你应该避免什么?
9 当其他玩家可能有你手持的高牌时,你应该玩的很小心。(你的听张死牌了)
10. Example?
A hand like
is usually very good. But if a couple of other players also
are playing high with similar big cards, your hand is probably somewhat counterfeited by
their hands.
10 举个例子?
10 TJQK挺不错的,但是如果其他玩家也爱玩类似的高张大牌,你这牌的出路可能被抵消了。
11. When do you want to have high hands?
When you are in a short-handed pot against players who play only the low hands.
11 你何时想要持高牌入池?
11 当你在一个短桌,而对手在短桌还只玩低牌时。
12. In what situation do high hands not play well?
Against players who play extremely tight and are likely to have a hand like two aces with
low cards.
12 何种情况下,高手牌应该小心的玩?
12 对上只玩AA带低牌的那些岩石玩家时,(在短手桌偷他们的盲注)
13. Why is having a hand that can go further without much early improvement an advantage?
Because it has more opportunity for overall improvement. Also, your opponent can bet for
value more often or bluff and knock you out when you would have had a winning hand at a
later stage.
13 为何要玩一些后期的坚果强牌(类似于三条街AKs in NLH)?
13 因为这些牌可以得到全面提升,而且你对手可能会价值或者诈唬下注而撞上你的坚果牌。
14. What must you do when playing the high hands heads up?
You must call a lot of times and see how the hand develops.
14 当单挑时玩高牌你应该?
14 你应该多跟注以便看翻牌。
15. Why is this so?
Because you often will split the pot with a low hand.
15 为啥?
15 因为你经常会与低手成牌平分底池。
16. But what if the board becomes real scary?
If a player shows strength, you will have to get out.
16 但是当牌面潮湿时?
16 如果对方示强,你应该退让。
17. By reading your opponent, what should you be able to determine?
Whether you have a split or a probable loser.
17 通过阅读你的对手,你应该做出什么推断?
17 究竟你是平分底池还是被对方scoop。
18. What are some hints to help you in this area?
1. Pay attention to the game.
2. Try to understand the meaning of someone's bet, check, or raise. (Will your opponent
make a play shorthanded?)
3. Is anyone currently steaming?
4. When in a tough situation, take all the time you need to determine the best course of action.
5. Spend time away from the table thinking about some of your tougher hands.
18 有啥好的提示?
18
1 保持专注;
2 理解对方各种动作背后的意义;(对手是否会玩少人池)
3 有人上头了么?
4 当处于困难的形式下,用尽所有时间去思考你所能采取的最佳行动;5 下桌后花时间思考你那些棘手的牌局。
19. How should you play high hands when the flop is such that a lot of scare cards can come to
beat you?
In this situation, you don't want to play high hands too aggressively.
19 当你玩高牌而翻牌出现了惊悚张,你应该如何?
19 在这种情况下,你不应该玩的过于激进。
20. When is this particularly true?
When you have flopped a set and the other two cards on board are reasonably close
together.
20 比如说?
20 如顶set遇到三同花或者三连张或两低牌配两同花等情况。
21. Example?
You have
and the flop comes
21 举例说下?
21 你手持QQJJ,翻牌Jh3s4h、你没有redraws。
22. When you are in a multiway pot and find yourself in one of these spots, how do you play?
Very cautiously.
22 当你在多人底池中,而出现以上状况时,你应该怎么玩?
22 特别小心。(怎么样个小心法具体看老大高低入门中翻牌的那个例子)

YOUR STARTING HAND
1. Except for the very beststarting hands, what can happen to any hand that you hold?
It can be counterfeited by asimilar starting hand either one notch higher or slightly lower
with an additional draw.
1 除至尊好牌外,其他手牌可能遇到什么情况?
1 被统治或者被抵消,例如和你起手牌相近的手牌加上额外的听牌。(这经常发生在A2/A3起手牌上,特别是你中了轮子,对方6、7high的顺子从而四分你)
2. How often does this happen?
Not every time, but a lot inmultiway pots.
2 这常发生吗?
2 并不是每次都会,但是在多人底池中比较常见。
3. What does this mean?
You must be careful with manyhands that look reasonably good.
3 这意味着这什么?
3 但你拿着好牌但不是至尊起手牌时要时刻注意。
4. What if you are in ashort-handed pot?
You have to play these handsout.
4 当你在短手池中如何处理?
4 你还是应该玩这些牌。
5. Since most hands run veryclose, what is the most important skill?
The ability to outplay youropponent.
5 短手桌手牌胜率很接近,那最重要的技能是什么?
5 你能击败你的对手。
6. Why do low hands have aplaying advantage over high hands?
Because scare cards oftenappear, and the holder of the high hand does not know what to
do.
6 为何低手牌可玩性高于高手牌?
6 因为当惊悚牌出现时,持高牌的玩家往往没有办法继续打价值。
7. What is the disadvantage ofthe low hand?
The high hand can force thelow hand to call all bets.
7 低手牌的缺陷是什么?
7 高手成牌会一直下注迫使低手牌跟注。(特指翻牌与河牌,转牌不一定成立)
8. What do high hands, eventhose that have made big hands, frequently need in multiway pots?
Redraws.
8 多人底池,当做成一手大牌时,还需要什么?
8 再听牌。
9. If a third low card comeson the river, besides making a low, what else might it make?
A small straight that can beata high set.
9 如果第三张小牌掉在河牌,除做成低牌外,还能做成什么牌?
9 小顺子,可以击败顶set。(河牌无花面的顶K set时,河牌必成顺或成低手牌,因此KK无低牌意义不大,PLO8中同理,大对子价值很低)
10. What if this low card alsogives the high hand a flush?
Then it is not so bad.
10 如果这第三张小牌也令高牌升级为一手同花,则?
10 情况不算糟。
11. Why is an ace a key card?
Because it is needed to makethe nut low when there is no ace on board, it can make the nut
flush, and when it makes ahigh straight, it is the nut straight.
11 为何A为高低奥马哈的关键张?
11 当牌面无A,有A是坚果低的关键张,如果有同花,也是坚果牌的关键张,当A做成顺时,必定是坚果顺。(因为A即可以算最大的牌,也可以算最小的牌)
12. If you play an ace and alot of people take the flop, what does this mean?
It is likely not only that oneor more of your opponents holds an ace, but also that someone
has an ace-deuce or anace-trey.
12 当你有A而一群人看翻牌这意味着什么?
12 可能不止一个对手手中有A,而且还有A2/A3的起手牌。
13. In general, what happensif you start with three or fewer coordinated cards?
Your hand will prove to bevery costly.
13 如果你起手牌只有3张互相关联,会有啥事?
13 费钱!(特别是起手3张不带A的轮子牌,而第四张是中间张,对上起手牌中有A+低牌的玩家,基本上是3张打人家5张)
14. What is the exception?
You hold an ace-deuce, whichdoes not always require all four cards working together.
14 例外?
14 你手持A2,其他几张牌的关联度要求相对不高。
15. What might be anotherpossible exception?
A hand like ace-trey-four-ten,with the ace suited to one of the other cards.
15 除此之外呢?
15 例如A34T,其中AT同花(没有费张,4为抵消张,而且中低牌听牌时,可能出现听花面)。
16. Why is it important tohave all four cards working together?
Because many pots get jammedon the later streets, and you often need the extra outs.
16 为何4张牌互相关联那么重要?
15 因为在后面几条街会有很多行动和包夹,你经常需要额外的出路,相互关联的手牌可以保证这一点。

 楼主| rahj 发表于 2017-8-1 23:56:26 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 rahj 于 2017-8-2 00:11 编辑

刚刚有幸玩了第一盘BIGO,感觉几乎所有玩家似乎是和钱过不去。
打得松不说,完全不看起手牌质量的,bigO由于要用到五张手牌,没A我基本是不看其他牌的。
几乎90%的玩家可以说连PLO8都不会,不过看ps上开的桌数,bigO以后的流行度肯定是要超过PLO8的。
因为不到1年时间,PLO8的桌子从有到无,相反bigO的桌子从无到有(瞎猜的)。
起手牌一般是要控制在A2wBBds这个范围,AA带的小牌不好前位都没啥可玩性。
我看见有用三条接我翻前allin的玩家,估计是stud转来的,用q花call我葫芦的玩家可能是德州下班过来玩的。
我小盲位多次拒绝跟注看family翻牌不知会不会被人标成大紧逼
 楼主| rahj 发表于 2017-8-2 01:08:24 | 显示全部楼层
bigO的概率问题,少不得要召唤老陈来查缺补漏了 @老陈
1)5张手牌,有可能与公牌形成有效低牌的概率多大?
91.09%
2)5张公牌,有可能与手牌形成有效低牌的概率多大?
69.09%

用排除法,以下的组合不合格

No. 1
5张都是大牌
c(20,5)=15504

No.2
4张大牌,1张小牌
c(20,4)*c(32,1)
4845*32
155040

No. 3
3张大牌,2张小牌一对
c(20,3)*c(8,1)*c(4,2)
20*19*18/6*8*4*3/2
54720

No. 4
2张大牌,小牌3条
c(20,2)*c(8,1)*c(4,3)
20*19/2*8*4
6080

No. 5
1张大牌小牌4条
8*20=160


Total
231504

c(52,5)
2598960

不合格概率
231504/2598960
8.907563%
答案:91.093%
再次给老陈点个赞,我在论坛上都算错了好几次,他在手机上都是一次过的。
 楼主| rahj 发表于 2017-8-7 22:30:35 | 显示全部楼层
STARTING WITH BIG PAIRS 大对子起手牌
1. Comment on a hand that includes two aces. It is a key hand in Omaha eight-or-better. When your hand also includes a deuce, and to a lesser extent a trey, it is a premium hand.
当有AA的起手牌都是可玩的,而当小牌是2,或至少是3时,这首牌就是至尊。
2. What is the bad part of having two aces? When you make three of a kind, one of the cards needed to make a low is now on board.
一对A的缺点是?
当你有三条A时,能构成低牌的一张A已经在牌面上了。
3. What if you make a high set, such as three kings? It is not as likely that someone will share a low with you.
那么三条K如何呢?
比三条A好的地方在于,可能你可以凭借高牌scoop整个底池。
4. What if you have two aces without a good low card? You can't stand a lot of action before the flop, unless you are suited up or have four high cards.
如果你只有一对A而没有好的低牌会如何?
翻牌前谨慎行事,除非你有A同花或者纯高牌。
5. How would you play AAT7?You would discard this hand if there is any kind of action early.
你如何玩AAT7不同花?
前面有bet有raise,弃牌。(由于A是关键牌,没A不玩,所以你翻前放弃AAxx的场景很少,这里由于有7,没有cap我是不会考虑弃牌的)

6. If there is a lot of action, what does it probably mean? Someone most likely holds an ace-deuce, and your chances of making three of a kind have diminished.
如果有很多行动,可能是什么原因?
有人手持A2,那么你AA做成三条的几率降低了。
7. What about other big pairs? They do poorly unless the pot is short-handed, the flop comes with three high cards, or the pairs are joined by two other related high cards.
其他大对子呢?
多人桌,QQ和以下的大对子没啥价值,除非是短手桌,或者翻牌面是三张高牌,或者对子和其他高牌一起能构成连张。
8. What happens as big cards get lower? Their value drops way off.
如果对子的点数低了呢?
那么价值下降的更快。
9. Why is that? Because when you make a straight, it puts low cards on board.
为何?
因为高牌连张成nut顺的时候,会有小牌出现在牌面上。(因此高牌带A最理想,KQJT也是好牌,但是QJT9,JJ99则不是)
10. Example? A hand like 9988  is close to the worst four cards that you can be dealt.
例子?
9988不同花可能是你能遇到的最烂的牌了。

WHEN YOU ARE FIRST IN 当你第一个入池
1. What does a call do? It tends to promote multiway pots.
如果你limp会?
通常会导致一个多路底池。(紧的短手桌通常不要limp入池,而是加注入池,但是长桌你处于UTG,+1,+2,limp open通常不算错)
2. When should you raise? When you are hoping to narrow the field to three or fewer players.
你何时应该加注入池?
如果你希望管理入池人数到3人以下时。
3. What if the game is loose? You can expect multiway pots whether you just call or raise.
如果桌子很松呢?
你open进来,一圈人跟进。
4. How should you play in this situation? According to what best fits your style.
这种情况应该如何玩?
根据你的翻后策略制定最佳的行动模式。
5. If the game is loose but there is a lot of raising, why might you just want to call? To see who does the raising so you can gauge the strengths of the various hands.

如果游戏很松,但是很多加注再加注,你是否应该跟注?
你应该留意加注者,由此来估计你的手牌强度。
6. In a tight game, how should you usually bring it in? With a raise.
紧手游戏中,如何入池?(首引,哈哈)
加注入池。
7. What are you hoping to accomplish with your raise? Either to steal the blinds or to play against only the blinds.
为何要加注入池?
偷盲或者与盲注游戏。(你位置有利)
8. What typically happens if you don't bring it in with a raise? You often find yourself caught in the middle, even if the game is tight.
如果你平call入池会如何?
你会发现自己翻后处于中间位置,即便游戏很紧。(也可能被后位隔离,往往导致你处于不利位置)
9. In general, should you raise a lot? No. You should not raise unless the game is tight and you are confident that you can get in a heads-up confrontation.
大体上你是否应该多加注呢?
不,除非游戏很紧,且你对翻后单挑比较有自信。(如果你单挑差劲,limp入池常常会导致后位玩家对你的攻击,那么你就不适合这个游戏)
10. What often happens when you are playing heads up? You can win the high with very weak hands, plus you can bluff players out since most of your opponents will play for low.
单挑时会出现什么情况?
高牌不需要太强就能拿下,此外你可以对只游戏低牌的对手进行诈唬获利。

HOW TO PLAY YOUR HAND 如何玩你的手牌
1. If you decide to play your hand, what must you determine? Whether you want lots of opponents or a few opponents, a big pot or a small pot.
一旦你决定玩这首牌,你应该决定哪些因素?
你需要一个多少人的底池,大底池或者小底池。
2. What should influence your decision? The type of players who are behind you, your position, the game, and even how you are doing in the game.
什么因素影响你的决策?
你后面玩家的类型,你的位置,游戏类型以及你的游戏历史。
3. But what is your decision mainly based on? The strength of your hand.
高低奥马哈的最重要的决策是基于?
你的手牌强度。
4. Example? If you are raising and reraising, you usually should have the nuts, especially if you are on the low side.
例子?
如果你加注再加注,你通常持有nuts,特别是低牌nuts。(最好有抵消张)
5. What else should you consider? How easy it is for your hand to be counterfeited later on, or how easy it is for a scare card to come that may prevent an opponent from jamming.
除此之外你还需要考虑?
你的低牌成牌是否在后几条街被抵消,你的高成手牌是否被惊悚牌所击败,导致你对手逃过惩罚。
6. If it is easy for you to get counterfeited, what precaution should you take? In this case, you might not want to give a lot of action until all the cards are out.
如果你的低牌容易被抵消,那你应该如何预防?
河牌前保持一个小底池,直到所有牌翻出。
7. Suppose you have the high and you want the player with the probable low to jam it. However, your opponent might fear that if a small card comes on a later street, his hand can be ruined, or perhaps he may just be afraid to bet. What should you do? You usually should play fast.
假设你有高牌,你希望一个可能有低牌的玩家与你一起夹击。然而你的对手害怕小牌出现导致他的低牌被抵消,或者他不敢下注,你应该如何?
快玩高牌。(而有很强低牌(带二级抵消张)的玩家常常在翻牌慢玩,让更多听非nuts低牌玩家一起进来)
8. Why is a little deception early good? Because many people will form an opinion about your hand and stick with it.
为何在早期进行欺诈玩法好呢?
让更多玩家形成一个对你的错误印象,因而你可以从中获利。
9. Give an example of deceptive play. On an early round, you occasionally do not raise in a spot where most other players will raise, or you will bet with a marginal hand.
举个例子。
当一局刚开始时,你偶尔慢玩所有玩家都会加注的手牌,或者你用一手边缘牌下注。
10. What might this type of play do for you? Someone could misread your hand and give you lots of action with the second-best hand.
这种非正常化的玩法会导致什么?
有玩家会误读你的手牌并且用第二坚果加注以及支付你的第一坚果。

PLAY ON THE FLOP 翻牌圈的游戏
1. What should you do any time that an ace hits on the flop? Tighten up significantly.
翻牌击中一个A应该如何玩?
更紧。(其他玩家也有一对A)
2. What typically can happen if an ace hits the board with another low card? A player who waits for premium hands can have the nut low draw with a pair of aces and possibly other draws working.
翻牌出了一张A和一张小牌会发生什么?
喜欢玩最好起手牌的玩家击中了坚果低听牌以及一对A,可能还有其他听牌。
3. Suppose the flop is QT2 you hold two queens, and there is a fair amount of money already in the pot. What should you do? Raise or perhaps try for a check-raise in an effort to knock out other players.

假设翻牌是QT2r,你有一对Q,底池已经有不少钱了,你应该如何玩?
加注或者尝试过牌加注,赶走听后门低牌的玩家。
4. Now suppose you have a big wrap-around straight draw with the same flop. Should you raise? No, as you do not want to knock out other players.
假设你有手大牌的wrap的顺子听牌,你是否应该加注?
不,你不应该配合高成手牌玩家把其他玩家赶出底池。
5. What if you think one of your opponents has a hand similar to your hand? You probably would want to eliminate all players with low draws.
如果你认为一个对手和你手牌类似,那么?
你应该将低牌听牌的玩家赶出底池。(以免你拿到顺子后却被四分)
6. What might this allow you to do? To split the high with no one getting the low, to win with just a high pair, or if low cards come, to bluff your opponent out.
这可以让你做什么呢?
没有其他玩家拿低牌时平分底池,或者凭借大对子赢下高牌,或者在低牌出现时,诈唬走对手。
 楼主| rahj 发表于 2017-8-8 15:22:42 | 显示全部楼层
WHEN YOU HAVE THE BEST HAND 你手握最好的牌时
1. What should you do when you believe you have the best hand? Either bet or raise, except possibly on the flop.
当你确信你有最好牌时你应该如何玩?
尽可能的下注和加注,可能翻牌是个例外。(如果你不能把大部分筹码投入底池,翻牌坚果通常意味着你需要redraw补强,因为你成靶子了)
2. Why should you sometimes make the flop an exception? To see whether a scare card or a counterfeit card comes to knock you off.
为何翻牌坚果是例外?
你还有两张牌看,可能来一张惊悚牌或者一张抵消张从而击败你的坚果。
3. Example? You have  the flop is  and the pot is multiway. Since all you have is a low, you want to be extremely careful before you put a lot of money in the pot.
例子:你手持A2,而翻牌是三小牌,你只是个低牌坚果,没有高牌出路,因此你在放入更多筹码之前要极其小心。
4. What do cautious players generally do when they have an ace-deuce low but do not have redraws? They almost never raise until all the cards are out.
谨慎的玩家怎么玩A2坚果低?
当他们没有redraws时,他们会一直等到牌出齐了才出手。(过于保守了,翻牌坚果低的玩法和你是否有抵消保护张有关,转牌你可以考虑和高牌合作把其他坚果低赶出底池)
5. What does this mean? If you are playing against a tight player, there is a possible nut low out, and he is in there calling, he usually has it.
这意味着什么?
当你在多人底池对抗一个紧手玩家,当牌面上有坚果低,而他仅仅是跟注,他通常有了坚果低。
6. Even though this approach works in the smaller games and in loose games at the higher limits, why does it fail in tight games? Because good players won't give tight players action.
尽管这招对小额游戏以及高额桌的松手游戏有效,为何对紧手游戏却失效了呢?
因为好的玩家不会对紧手玩家的下注进行支付。
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