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 本帖最后由 windstormm 于 2010-6-9 21:58 编辑  
 
另外一篇我对river 的approach based on some discussion on mitbbs 。  主要是驳斥river 论点"we need to call river bet with marginal hands to avoid being bluffed."  应该对新手有点帮助。 
 
 
"I didn't have time to discuss further on this yesterday while playing 2  
tables at the side.  I want to talk a little more on this. I truly believe  
nash's opinion on river showdown is exactly opposite of what we should do on 
river.  
 
River is the most important street in Holdem.  For a few reasons, 1) the  
cards are out, you are either beat or you have won. There is no more miracle 
card to come to save you; 2) the pot at river is many more times larger  
than previous street, which make your decision that much more important.  
Your ability to value bet, bluff and call bluff at river is the ultimate  
weapon to make you a winning player.  If you play your river well, your  
starting hand is really not important anymore, because you can play any two  
cards and extract maximum value.  
 
Now that we understand how important river is, we need to understand a few  
more key point 1) People do not bluff as often as you think at river.  2)   
People who are LAG preflop, flop, turn, does not necessary equal to they are 
aggressive on river.  Even if they are, they will be at a much less  
frequency.  Because of these two points, you are better off folding a lot of 
marginal hand than being taken to value town at river. You can call a bluff 
ONLY IF you have a specific read. Don't do it the other way around like " 
calling some marginal hand to avoid being bluffed."  It is WRONG, and it  
does not worth it. It does not make you a winner.   
 
There is a reason why people do not think playing short stack is real holdem 
, because you avoided the most complex street in holdem and most of the time 
you are all in by turn. It is also more difficult to play river simply  
because there are more cards on the table. Your read is your ultimate weapon 
at river.  When you are dealing with river, not only look at your own two  
hole cards, but also think about what the other player have and what other  
player think you have. Think about what hand you can get value from and what 
hand you can beat.  
 
Simple example,  
utg raise 4X you call at button with AKs, 
flop AQJ rainbow, utg pot, you call, 
turn 2 , utg pot again, you call. 
River is another 2, utg put in another pot. 
What do you do here?  You should fold most of the time., because you are  
getting value from no hands here. You called two pot size and represented a  
strong hand (I can guarantee you that utg will not think you have pocket 9s) 
. You can call rarely ONLY if you have a read that utg is capable of  
bluffing 3 street after raise utg with junk. Even though if this is the case 
, you still proceed with caution and understand that you are trying to catch 
a bluff not trying to get value from his A10." |   
 
 
 
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