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美国著名扑克牌手John Andress 针对伙牌作弊现象的公开声明

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赌亦有道 发表于 2019-2-20 11:11:37 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
最近,几部中国扑克工作室在某约局扑克平台伙牌作弊的视频在欧美扑克届流传并引发了广泛的讨论。很多欧美德州届的大咖相继发声。其中知名的德州牌手教练John Andress也通过社交媒体发表如下声明。

In the past few years App-based online poker has increased in popularity. Rumors of a “Chinese Poker Boom” began to spread through poker rooms bringing players around the world into the game.  Games ran on club based phone applications and were hosted by private club owners. This new online poker model had a large volume of cash games with big gamblers but it also came with a serious risk of players being cheated.

在过去几年中,约局模式的线上扑克App越来越受欢迎。“中国扑克热潮”的传闻开始在全世界传播,并吸引了世界各地的玩家参与其中。俱乐部创建者通过手机APP软件创建俱乐部,并组织玩家参与。这种新的线上扑克模式拥有大量的现金桌玩家与大赌客,但同时也存在玩家面临各种作弊行为的严重风险。

The club based online poker model comes with variety of caveats. Anonymity is a necessity in the Asian markets. This creates an environment where players can easily create multiple accounts, play at the same table, and share cards.  This form of collusion makes it nearly impossible for other players to win at the same table. Club structure also requires owners to police games for collusion and other forms of cheating.  In some cases,club owners are complicit in encouraging cheaters to play against unsuspecting players, then taking a share of profits. These same owners are also required to handle payments and hold player funds.  This system often failed when the club became insolvent after extending large lines of credit to players.Platform developers have the ability to monitor game security but they have noincentive to police the games because they do not handle funds or payments. Their profit comes from in-app purchases such as chips or club creation.

俱乐部约局模式的线上扑克俱乐部通常有很多注意事项。但由于匿名注册在亚洲市场是允许的,所以使得玩家可以轻松创建多个帐户,可以在同一张桌子上游戏,并获知彼此的手牌。这种作弊(伙牌)形式让其他玩家几乎不可能在该牌桌获胜。约局模式当然要求组织者对各种作弊行为进行监管,但有的时候,俱乐部负责人会和作弊者一起参与这种伙牌行为来赢取俱乐部其他成员的筹码并瓜分利润。约局模式也要求组织者负责游戏玩家的资金结算,但当俱乐部向玩家提供大量信用额度并因为玩家跑路导致资金链断裂的时候,整个俱乐部也会关闭甚至发生跑路的事件。约局软件的平台方有能力去监控游戏安全性和公平性等问题,但他们没有动力这样做,因为他们不管理和结算玩家的游戏资金。他们的利润只来自App内金币(道具)的购买消耗或俱乐部的创建费等。

PokerKing uses a different model.  The company is a regulated cash network with acentralized player pool.  Player funds are held by the company and club managers are only tasked with bringing players into the game.  The success of PokerKing depends on having a fair games, therefore making game security central to the company’s strategy.  Pokerking has a support staff available to players 24 hours a day that includes a team of engineers that monitor game integrity using both algorithmic and manual detection processes.

扑克王则是一种全然不同的模式。该公司是一个受监管的现金网,拥有集中的玩家池。玩家资金由公司管理,俱乐部只负责介绍玩家进来游戏。扑克王的成功取决于其拥有公平的游戏环境,游戏安全性和公平性是公司战略的核心。扑克王全天24小时为玩家提供各种支持,包括一个使用算法和人工检测来监控游戏安全性和公平性的专业团队。

In my 10+ years  as a professional poker player, the two most important things I consider when putting my money in action are game integrity andliquidity.  All of the information in this article has come from myin-game, data-based research along with my experience playing in private clubapps for the last two and a half years.  I am a coach for the training site RunItOnce and have played both online and live poker in the toughest games at the highest stakes.

在我10余年职业扑克生涯中,我在存入资金游戏前会考虑的两个最重要的事:游戏的公平性和资金的安全性。本文所写的所有信息都基于我在游戏中的实际研究,以及过去两年半我在约局模式App的私人俱乐部中游戏的经验。我是RunItOnce培训网站的教练,并且在线上和现场扑克的顶尖高额桌上都玩过。

Detecting collusion is a difficult task that requires both technical resources and an in-depth knowledge of Poker related game theory.  Collusion destroys the integrity of the game, and it removes the ability for honest players to profit in the game long term.  Skilled colluders share cards and strategy decisions to manipulate the action to their advantage.  In a more egregious example, I have found evidence of a player trying to connect to an 8 handed table with 5 accounts- -making it nearly impossible for anyone but the cheater to win.

检测伙牌是一项艰巨的任务,它需要科技和对扑克相关博弈论的深入了解。伙牌破坏了游戏的公平性,也剥夺了诚信玩家在游戏中长期获利的权利。资深伙牌者通过共享牌型和策略进行操作,以达到获取利益的目的。我曾经发现有人在一张8人桌上操控5个账户来伙牌 - 这使得除了他以外的任何人都几乎不可能获胜。

I will be consulting PokerKing alongside Nick Petrangelo with a team of expert professionals as the leader of the Game Security Panel.  The team has a combined $20+ million in online and live earnings in tournaments and cash games against the world’s toughest competition.  We have studied both poker related data analytics and game theory to compete at the highest level for the past decade.Using our combined experience we plan to accomplish the following goals:

作为扑克王游戏安全小组的负责人,Nick Petrangelo将和我与专家团队一起为扑克王做安全顾问。我们的团队在世界上最顶尖的线上扑克牌桌、现场锦标赛和现金桌牌局中的总收入超过了2千万美元。我们研究的扑克相关数据分析和博弈论可与过去十年中的最高水平抗衡。综合我们的经验,计划实现以下目标:

1.To help enhance PokerKing’s algorithmic detection system using data analytics and our collective experience playing poker for the past 15+ years.
2.Consult on high profile cases where suspected collusion or cheating may have occurred.
3.Educate the poker community on fair play and game safety.

1.通过数据分析学和我们过去15年来累积的扑克经验,来帮助强化扑克王的算法检测系统。
2.在一些涉及金额较大的疑似伙牌或者作弊的案件中做顾问。
3.在扑克社区中普及游戏公平和安全的相关知识。

Cheating and collusion can come in many forms with varying levels of severity. PokerKing has a ZERO-tolerance approach to policing these situations.Please read the rules and terms of service before playing, or reach out tosupport with any questions.

作弊和伙牌形式多样或轻或重,但扑克王对作弊和伙牌行为零容忍。请在游戏前阅读规则和服务条款,有任何问题均可与我们联系。



John Andress
2019.02.18
  

                                                                                 


                                                                                                           






 楼主| 赌亦有道 发表于 2019-2-20 11:18:39 | 显示全部楼层
John Andress: 美国职业德州扑克玩家,德州扑克培训机构Run It Once顶尖的现金桌单挑教练,在MTT比赛和现金桌中的盈利超过千万美元。



个人成就介绍:
https://www.pokertube.com/pro/john-andress
https://www.runitonce.com/users/johnea6/
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=173709


Nick Petrangelo: 美国职业德州扑克玩家,德州扑克培训网站Upswing的MTT比赛的首席教练,2条WSOP金手链获得者,线上MTT比赛有纪录的盈利超过1600万美元。



个人成就介绍:
https://upswingpoker.com/about-us/nick-petrangelo/
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=130435

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sky1021 发表于 2019-2-20 11:30:27 | 显示全部楼层
无聊, PKW广告吗
578344015 发表于 2019-2-20 12:00:03 | 显示全部楼层
什么时候再来红包雨,上次居然只了个8块
hutgies 发表于 2019-2-20 12:33:28 | 显示全部楼层
名人背书啊,看着象软文,但还算客观。我也喜欢PKW的模式多些,比圈方便。
392388732 发表于 2019-2-20 12:49:49 | 显示全部楼层
卧槽,还有节操吗,伙牌还好,安排机器人收割全场怎么说
四条三最大 发表于 2019-2-20 13:42:08 | 显示全部楼层
578344015 发表于 2019-2-20 12:00
什么时候再来红包雨,上次居然只了个8块

我中过888块
傻傻的鱼 发表于 2019-2-20 14:14:04 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
与其找这些九五搭八的老外背书,不如考虑一下我这样实实在在的用户(reg)代言
FlemminG 发表于 2019-2-20 19:28:32 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
more rake is better!
四条三最大 发表于 2019-2-24 12:32:04 | 显示全部楼层
扑克王是我目前觉得最好打的,取款也快。其他太小的平台不敢玩,在德扑圈又连着两次碰到局头跑路,无处申诉,被搞怕了。
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