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51#
lordzxd 发表于 2018-1-10 20:47:20 | 只看该作者
傻傻的鱼 发表于 2018-1-10 20:07
你的open尺度我不评价,各有所好.   

你提到位置的说法,我挺惊讶.  你打PS也是裸奔,不要软件?.  或者HM的 ...

我裸奔娱乐玩家,偏紧(19-21%),3bet preflop大概在4%(自我感觉)
52#
lordzxd 发表于 2018-1-10 20:59:09 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 lordzxd 于 2018-1-10 21:00 编辑
傻傻的鱼 发表于 2018-1-10 20:07
你的open尺度我不评价,各有所好.   

你提到位置的说法,我挺惊讶.  你打PS也是裸奔,不要软件?.  或者HM的 ...

78s很多时候我在UTG都是直接扔的。有关位置和起手牌表格里,或者那个什么pokersnowie推荐的打法里,78s在MP应该是有一定call入底池的比例的。

所以具体不需要再深入讨论78s了
53#
 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2018-1-10 21:06:05 来自手机 | 只看该作者
lordzxd 发表于 2018-1-10 20:47
我裸奔娱乐玩家,偏紧(19-21%),3bet preflop大概在4%(自我感觉)

数据就是形象。

线上不用软件约等于线下不读人。

以前看见有人说5万手这个打法,下五万手那个打法,别人就解读不到准确信息啥的,都是外行话。

数据不会说谎
54#
lordzxd 发表于 2018-1-10 21:09:30 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 lordzxd 于 2018-1-10 21:15 编辑
傻傻的鱼 发表于 2018-1-10 21:06
数据就是形象。

线上不用软件约等于线下不读人。

有软件当然好,这不是没买嘛。

没软件也能打打,只能这样说了。

看到了你那几个牌例:set被顺杀、顺被同花杀、同花被更大同花杀那几个。

我觉得主要问题还是有点过激了,适当性的自控一下,这些牌上面可能会少输些,少输就是赢,因为NL25还是很多玩家遵循多大牌力玩多大底池的游戏规则,要充分利用这一点。

当然,顶葫芦被4条屠、AA河牌击中成为更大葫芦等等这种cooler不在讨论范围之内。
55#
 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2018-1-11 10:04:39 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 傻傻的鱼 于 2018-1-11 10:19 编辑

少输就是赢的另一面就是少赢就是输.   AF最高的时候达到过2.9,  目前稳定在2.2左右.

AF这个东西永远是结合牌面和位置和action.

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 23.02, PFR: 19.08, 3Bet Preflop: 5.85, Hands: 957)
SB: 34.44 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
BB: 104.72 BB (VPIP: 35.29, PFR: 29.41, 3Bet Preflop: 8.57, Hands: 89)
Hero (UTG): 392.84 BB
MP: 130.12 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 27.71, PFR: 21.30, 3Bet Preflop: 14.63, Hands: 237)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  Q A

Hero raises to 2.68 BB, MP calls 2.68 BB, CO calls 2.68 BB, fold, SB calls 2.28 BB, fold

Flop: (11.72 BB, 4 players)  A A 7
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks

Turn: (11.72 BB, 4 players)  2
SB checks, Hero bets 4 BB, MP raises to 10.4 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 6.4 BB

River: (32.52 BB, 2 players)  8
Hero checks, MP bets 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

MP shows  2 2  (Full House, Twos full of Aces)
(Pre 52%, Flop 7%, Turn 84%)
Hero mucks  Q A  (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 48%, Flop 93%, Turn 16%)
MP wins 57.8 BB

同样是枪口vsMP.  牌面和动作不合适,那就ABC,我激进吗

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 117.24 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
Hero (SB): 138.24 BB
BB: 81.28 BB (VPIP: 26.19, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)
UTG: 89.64 BB
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 11.13, PFR: 6.48, 3Bet Preflop: 1.58, Hands: 505)
CO: 150.8 BB (VPIP: 27.40, PFR: 20.55, 3Bet Preflop: 7.55, Hands: 149)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  K A

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, fold, UTG calls 10 BB, BTN calls 10 BB

Flop: (40 BB, 3 players)  3 J 7
Hero bets 19 BB, UTG raises to 76.64 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 57.64 BB

Turn: (193.28 BB, 2 players)  Q

River: (193.28 BB, 2 players)  9

Hero shows  K A  (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 72%, Flop 80%, Turn 75%)
UTG shows  5 A  (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 28%, Flop 20%, Turn 25%)
Hero wins 185.28 BB

牌面和动作,赔率合适, Ahigh也不跑, 不激进吗?

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 93.88 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
SB: 353.24 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 42)
BB: 113.76 BB (VPIP: 39.47, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
UTG: 90.92 BB (VPIP: 22.50, PFR: 19.17, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 124)
MP: 96.24 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 14)
Hero (CO): 134.64 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  T A

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.28 BB, fold, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero raises to 23 BB, SB calls 14 BB

Flop: (47 BB, 2 players)  5 K J
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (47 BB, 2 players)  A
SB bets 14.8 BB, Hero calls 14.8 BB

River: (76.6 BB, 2 players)  K
SB bets 46.8 BB, Hero calls 46.8 BB

SB shows  T T  (Two Pair, Kings and Tens)
(Pre 69%, Flop 71%, Turn 7%)
Hero shows  T A  (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 31%, Flop 29%, Turn 93%)
Hero wins 162.56 BB
V line不合理,那就一定抓诈唬,算不算激进. 这手用时120",用光计时器

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 102.16 BB (VPIP: 20.42, PFR: 14.32, 3Bet Preflop: 6.77, Hands: 431)
SB: 99 BB (VPIP: 11.76, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 107.6 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
MP: 98.44 BB (VPIP: 25.41, PFR: 12.15, 3Bet Preflop: 2.82, Hands: 188)
CO: 290.84 BB (VPIP: 37.65, PFR: 27.06, 3Bet Preflop: 7.89, Hands: 86)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  Q A

fold, fold, CO raises to 3.4 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10.6 BB, CO calls 7.2 BB

Flop: (21.6 BB, 2 players)  K 8 5
Hero bets 13.64 BB, CO calls 13.64 BB

Turn: (48.88 BB, 2 players)  J
Hero bets 75.76 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 46.68 BB
V F3  18%,Float Flop 80%,简直就是召唤诈唬的活靶子,诈唬就诈唬到底,就用范围碾压,算不算激进.

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 93.76 BB (VPIP: 24.66, PFR: 17.81, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 74)
SB: 57.76 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 4)
BB: 25.16 BB (VPIP: 5.56, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 19)
UTG: 298.76 BB (VPIP: 18.99, PFR: 15.63, 3Bet Preflop: 14.92, Hands: 2,617)
MP: 142.88 BB (VPIP: 20.74, PFR: 13.83, 3Bet Preflop: 7.94, Hands: 194)
Hero (CO): 232 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  J A

fold, MP raises to 2.08 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 5.92 BB

Flop: (17.4 BB, 2 players)  T 4 6
MP checks, Hero bets 10.96 BB, MP raises to 23.68 BB, Hero calls 12.72 BB

Turn: (64.76 BB, 2 players)  3
MP bets 27.2 BB, Hero calls 27.2 BB

River: (119.16 BB, 2 players)  9
MP bets 84 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 84 BB

MP shows  4 4  (Three of a Kind, Fours)
(Pre 51%, Flop 74%, Turn 23%)
Hero shows  J A  (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 49%, Flop 26%, Turn 77%)
Hero wins 279.16 BB
虽然最近比较霉,有时候也是能击中NUTS的

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 78.2 BB (VPIP: 24.06, PFR: 16.54, 3Bet Preflop: 6.73, Hands: 272)
SB: 118.88 BB (VPIP: 17.14, PFR: 12.86, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 74)
BB: 256.08 BB (VPIP: 24.65, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 11.82, Hands: 295)
UTG: 114.4 BB (VPIP: 23.22, PFR: 19.30, 3Bet Preflop: 5.72, Hands: 935)
MP: 151.96 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
Hero (CO): 376.48 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  K Q

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.68 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 9.6 BB, Hero calls 6.92 BB

Flop: (19.6 BB, 2 players)  3 J Q
BB bets 11.2 BB, Hero calls 11.2 BB

Turn: (42 BB, 2 players)  2
BB bets 24 BB, Hero calls 24 BB

River: (90 BB, 2 players)  K
BB bets 60 BB, Hero calls 60 BB

BB shows  A 2  (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 57%, Flop 45%, Turn 30%)
Hero mucks  K Q  (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
(Pre 43%, Flop 55%, Turn 70%)
BB wins 202 BB
河牌真想弃,实在弃不掉,还能赢AA吗.  鱼的本性还没有完全清除.还需要提高.




56#
 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2018-1-12 16:37:09 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 傻傻的鱼 于 2018-1-12 18:05 编辑

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 176.8 BB
SB: 162 BB (VPIP: 20.91, PFR: 17.13, 3Bet Preflop: 8.95, Hands: 816)
BB: 138.24 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 66.67, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 27.17, PFR: 20.29, 3Bet Preflop: 6.80, Hands: 286)
MP: 137.68 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 19)
CO: 241.12 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 25.33, 3Bet Preflop: 12.99, Hands: 231)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  Q K

fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, CO raises to 29 BB, Hero calls 20 BB

Flop: (59.4 BB, 2 players)  K 7 T
CO bets 14.16 BB, Hero calls 14.16 BB

Turn: (87.72 BB, 2 players)  6
CO checks, Hero checks

River: (87.72 BB, 2 players)  5
CO bets 197.96 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 133.64 BB and is all-in

Villain200手数据, Vpip27%,Co open 42%  F3  40%, 4bet 10%. 打到摊牌 18%, 摊牌胜率总体17%.摊牌胜率(大锅) 25%   这个河牌overbet,该不该call.  
57#
 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2018-1-12 20:11:59 | 只看该作者
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 254.64 BB
SB: 105.36 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 36)
BB: 752.6 BB (VPIP: 18.95, PFR: 15.60, 3Bet Preflop: 15.23, Hands: 2,811)
UTG: 402.12 BB (VPIP: 18.30, PFR: 12.93, 3Bet Preflop: 3.76, Hands: 324)
MP: 155.04 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
CO: 74.6 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  Q J

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.28 BB, fold, BB raises to 8.88 BB, Hero calls 6.6 BB

Flop: (18.16 BB, 2 players)  Q 7 K
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (18.16 BB, 2 players)  3
BB bets 16.16 BB, Hero calls 16.16 BB

River: (50.48 BB, 2 players)  A
BB bets 43.4 BB, Hero calls 43.4 BB

BB shows  5 4  (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 40%, Flop 4%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows  Q J  (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 60%, Flop 96%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins 131.12 BB

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 224.64 BB (VPIP: 41.94, PFR: 30.65, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 64)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.66, PFR: 18.20, 3Bet Preflop: 8.43, Hands: 464)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.73, PFR: 16.95, 3Bet Preflop: 9.25, Hands: 736)
MP: 265 BB (VPIP: 21.71, PFR: 18.54, 3Bet Preflop: 9.55, Hands: 422)
CO: 461.88 BB (VPIP: 18.98, PFR: 15.65, 3Bet Preflop: 15.66, Hands: 2,862)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  A 2

fold, fold, CO raises to 5.52 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 4.52 BB

Flop: (11.44 BB, 2 players)  J 9 A
Hero checks, CO bets 10.04 BB, Hero calls 10.04 BB

Turn: (31.52 BB, 2 players)  A
Hero bets 30.12 BB, CO calls 30.12 BB

River: (91.76 BB, 2 players)  5
Hero checks, CO checks

Hero shows  A 2  (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 32%, Flop 19%, Turn 23%)
CO shows  T A  (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 68%, Flop 81%, Turn 77%)
CO wins 87.64 BB


又是这个di rossi81.  他的行为模式摸透后非常好打.  可惜微级别牌手不会这样专门去研究别人怎么打.  如果每天花1-2个小时把大部分对手的打法都捋一遍的话,盈率保守能增加3bb吧.  还是太懒.



发现别人的漏洞还比较简单,发现自己的漏洞千难万难.   

最明显的一点是,"河牌不喜欢弃牌"

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 145.8 BB (VPIP: 21.11, PFR: 14.07, 3Bet Preflop: 3.75, Hands: 205)
Hero (SB): 201.6 BB
BB: 196.72 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
UTG: 112.36 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
MP: 213.6 BB (VPIP: 22.11, PFR: 17.07, 3Bet Preflop: 8.38, Hands: 510)
CO: 93.48 BB (VPIP: 22.95, PFR: 14.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 62)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  A T

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.68 BB, BB raises to 9.2 BB, Hero calls 6.52 BB

Flop: (18.4 BB, 2 players)  2 J A
Hero checks, BB bets 11.4 BB, Hero calls 11.4 BB

Turn: (41.2 BB, 2 players)  9
Hero checks, BB checks

River: (41.2 BB, 2 players)  9
Hero bets 14 BB, BB raises to 52 BB, Hero calls 38 BB

BB shows  J J  (Full House, Jacks full of Nines)
(Pre 68%, Flop 95%, Turn 90%)
Hero mucks  A T  (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)
(Pre 32%, Flop 5%, Turn 10%)
BB wins 138.68 BB

河牌除了JJ没有牌可以这样打.   有时候还真就是JJ.   太快跟注也不好,这手想了20秒就跟了,应该多想一想. 过于Leveling,数据太少的对手,不知道是阿猫还是阿狗.


总结"河牌多弃牌, 特别是投入不多的时候,多主动下注,少跟注.overbluff的人还是少数."

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 187.4 BB (VPIP: 22.00, PFR: 12.67, 3Bet Preflop: 1.75, Hands: 152)
SB: 353.28 BB (VPIP: 19.23, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 28)
BB: 590.84 BB (VPIP: 21.98, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 280)
UTG: 86.96 BB (VPIP: 20.45, PFR: 11.36, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 44)
Hero (MP): 427.2 BB
CO: 132.56 BB (VPIP: 22.50, PFR: 19.74, 3Bet Preflop: 7.22, Hands: 712)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  Q A

UTG raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 1.6 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 4 players)  3 J A
SB bets 3.84 BB, fold, UTG calls 3.84 BB, Hero raises to 16.48 BB, fold, UTG calls 12.64 BB

Turn: (44.8 BB, 2 players)  A
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (44.8 BB, 2 players)  9
UTG bets 68.48 BB and is all-in, fold

UTG wins 42.8 BB


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 150.28 BB (VPIP: 19.44, PFR: 12.96, 3Bet Preflop: 4.44, Hands: 110)
SB: 184.52 BB (VPIP: 32.10, PFR: 20.99, 3Bet Preflop: 8.96, Hands: 170)
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 103.32 BB (VPIP: 25.79, PFR: 18.10, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 225)
Hero (MP): 155.76 BB
CO: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.50, Hands: 105)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  A A

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 8.6 BB, BB calls 8 BB, fold

Flop: (30 BB, 3 players)  8 3 6
SB checks, BB bets 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB, SB calls 14 BB

Turn: (72 BB, 3 players)  9
SB checks, BB bets 28 BB, Hero calls 28 BB, SB raises to 60 BB, BB calls 32 BB, fold

River: (220 BB, 2 players)  2
SB bets 101.52 BB and is all-in, BB calls 17 BB and is all-in

SB shows  3 3  (Three of a Kind, Threes)
(Pre 52%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
BB shows  Q K  (High Card, King)
(Pre 48%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
SB wins 246 BB









58#
 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2018-1-12 20:14:40 | 只看该作者
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 102.68 BB (VPIP: 24.56, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 57)
SB: 102.36 BB (VPIP: 32.35, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 34)
BB: 174.44 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
Hero (UTG): 153.52 BB
MP: 328.32 BB (VPIP: 14.50, PFR: 9.17, 3Bet Preflop: 5.93, Hands: 345)
CO: 130.36 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  A A

Hero raises to 2.28 BB, fold, CO calls 2.28 BB, fold, SB calls 1.88 BB, BB raises to 12 BB, Hero raises to 35 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 23 BB

Flop: (74.56 BB, 2 players)  7 9 4
BB checks, Hero bets 23.48 BB, BB calls 23.48 BB

Turn: (121.52 BB, 2 players)  5
BB checks, Hero bets 95.04 BB and is all-in, BB calls 95.04 BB

River: (311.6 BB, 2 players)  7

BB shows  8 6  (Straight, Nine High)
(Pre 22%, Flop 34%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows  A A  (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens)
(Pre 78%, Flop 66%, Turn 0%)
BB wins 303.6 BB

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 124.2 BB (VPIP: 22.45, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 49)
SB: 77.88 BB (VPIP: 26.47, PFR: 14.71, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 35)
BB: 252.2 BB (VPIP: 13.73, PFR: 9.07, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 417)
Hero (UTG): 207.4 BB
MP: 334.28 BB (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 16)
CO: 153.72 BB (VPIP: 31.58, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  Q Q

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (10.4 BB, 3 players)  J J Q
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB

Turn: (16.4 BB, 3 players)  4
Hero checks, CO bets 16 BB, BTN calls 16 BB, Hero raises to 37 BB, CO calls 21 BB, BTN raises to 119.2 BB and is all-in, Hero raises to 202.4 BB and is all-in, CO calls 111.72 BB and is all-in

River: (433.04 BB, 3 players)  3

Hero shows  Q Q  (Full House, Queens full of Jacks)

Main Pot [374 BB]: (Pre 56%, Flop 99.7%, Turn 100%)
Side Pot#1 [59.04 BB]: (Pre 82%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)

CO shows  T J  (Three of a Kind, Jacks)

Main Pot [374 BB]: (Pre 16%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#1 [59.04 BB]: (Pre 18%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)

BTN shows  K J  (Three of a Kind, Jacks)

Main Pot [374 BB]: (Pre 28%, Flop 0.3%, Turn 0%)

Hero wins 425.04 BB

这种类型的傻B多一点该多好.
59#
 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2018-1-13 22:43:40 | 只看该作者
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
SB: 120.72 BB (VPIP: 32.09, PFR: 25.37, 3Bet Preflop: 17.31, Hands: 137)
BB: 158.6 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 57)
Hero (UTG): 103.88 BB
MP: 100.24 BB (VPIP: 13.04, PFR: 10.87, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 46)
CO: 76.76 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  5 6

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 2.6 BB, fold

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players)  T 2 K
SB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, SB calls 3 BB

Turn: (13 BB, 2 players)  A
SB checks, Hero bets 10 BB, SB raises to 27 BB, Hero calls 17 BB

River: (67 BB, 2 players)  Q
SB checks, Hero bets 70.88 BB and is all-in, SB calls 70.88 BB

Hero shows  5 6  (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 52%, Flop 4%, Turn 16%)
SB shows  2 2  (Three of a Kind, Twos)
(Pre 48%, Flop 96%, Turn 84%)
SB wins 200.76 BB


Villain snap call,搞得我有点懵逼, 这怎么能call得动呢,而且还秒call.             后来发现这货应该是上头了.  Zoom最爱的是这种, 最怕的也是这种人, 完全不知道对方情绪.  

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 114.44 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
SB: 80.96 BB
Hero (BB): 162 BB
UTG: 102.64 BB (VPIP: 24.78, PFR: 15.93, 3Bet Preflop: 6.52, Hands: 119)
MP: 105.92 BB (VPIP: 45.71, PFR: 5.71, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 35)
CO: 101.6 BB (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 8.70, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 23)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  A K

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players)  A 4 J
SB checks, Hero bets 5.68 BB, SB calls 5.68 BB

Turn: (29.36 BB, 2 players)  4
SB checks, Hero bets 17 BB, SB calls 17 BB

River: (63.36 BB, 2 players)  K
SB checks, Hero bets 60.52 BB, SB calls 49.28 BB and is all-in

Hero shows  A K  (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 72%, Flop 83%, Turn 91%)
SB shows  Q K  (Two Pair, Kings and Fours)
(Pre 29%, Flop 17%, Turn 9%)
Hero wins 154.64 BB

这手牌可能有点争议,  我在河牌长考后allin.  我认为这里下注比check的EV要高得多.



     
60#
 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2018-1-15 11:56:21 | 只看该作者
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 61.88 BB (VPIP: 43.33, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
SB: 69.8 BB (VPIP: 27.24, PFR: 12.20, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 251)
BB: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 22.19, PFR: 18.63, 3Bet Preflop: 13.08, Hands: 374)
UTG: 241.56 BB (VPIP: 16.23, PFR: 12.52, 3Bet Preflop: 5.90, Hands: 827)
Hero (MP): 213.24 BB
CO: 109.64 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  5 A

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to 19 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

Flop: (39.4 BB, 2 players)  K K 6
UTG checks, Hero bets 12.44 BB, UTG calls 12.44 BB

Turn: (64.28 BB, 2 players)  3
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (64.28 BB, 2 players)  5
UTG checks, Hero bets 82 BB, UTG calls 82 BB

Hero shows  5 A  (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 34%, Flop 40%, Turn 91%)
UTG mucks  Q Q  (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
(Pre 66%, Flop 60%, Turn 9%)
Hero wins 220.28 BB

早上刚打的一手牌, 觉得打得很好. review的时候又出现一点疑问.River Jam 还是1.3-1.5X左右更好.

SPR接近3.
V是一个非常紧的reg,  如果把AK放进他的范围,这里应该Jam.
如果把AK移除掉,只剩下AAQQKK,   V大概有8%的坚果, 大概可以bet 2X左右.
考虑到hero的bluff 范围有且只有3手AhQx.   有KK,还有7手NUT FLUSH.  只需要bet 1.2-1.4X就可以平衡.

对上比较紧的REG,如果JAM他很大可能会FOLD AA. 所以似乎我的下注尺寸还是合理的.

然而从他用QQ no heart,hero call来看, 显然是一个overcaller.  我应该下注2X,刚好100BB,接近他后手的一半,他还是很可能会call.  从这个角度来看, 好像又是损失18bb左右的value(相当于要多打几百手牌).

GTO is so confusing in terms of river sizing




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