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标题: 请教PLO08 [打印本页]

作者: 0532gszy 时间: 2010-5-2 10:54
标题: 请教PLO08
PokerStars Game #43438284830: Tournament #266068595, $10+$1 USD Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level XXV (2500/5000) - 2010/05/01 19:38:50 CCT [2010/05/01 7:38:50 ET]
Table '266068595 8' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: MEHALTSU (115293 in chips)
Seat 3: 0532gszy (31624 in chips)
Seat 4: www43 (65998 in chips)
Seat 6: Zaphyre (45372 in chips)
Seat 7: tedrock1945 (71144 in chips)
Seat 8: zachfranks (13951 in chips)
Seat 9: xxXbp38Xxx (79618 in chips)
xxXbp38Xxx: posts small blind 2500
MEHALTSU: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 0532gszy [2d 4s Ac Ts]
0532gszy: raises 12500 to 17500
www43: folds
Zaphyre: folds
tedrock1945: folds
zachfranks: folds
xxXbp38Xxx: folds
MEHALTSU: raises 22500 to 40000
0532gszy: calls 14124 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (8376) returned to MEHALTSU
*** FLOP *** [2c 8c 7d]
*** TURN *** [2c 8c 7d] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [2c 8c 7d 4d] [3s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MEHALTSU: shows [Ad As 7h 4h] (HI: two pair, Sevens and Fours; LO: 7,4,3,2,A)
0532gszy: shows [2d 4s Ac Ts] (HI: two pair, Fours and Deuces; LO: 7,4,3,2,A)
MEHALTSU collected 32874 from pot
MEHALTSU collected 16437 from pot
0532gszy collected 16437 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 65748 | Rake 0
Board [2c 8c 7d 4d 3s]
Seat 2: MEHALTSU (big blind) showed [Ad As 7h 4h] and won (49311) with HI: two pair, Sevens and Fours; LO: 7,4,3,2,A
Seat 3: 0532gszy showed [2d 4s Ac Ts] and won (16437) with HI: two pair, Fours and Deuces; LO: 7,4,3,2,A
Seat 4: www43 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Zaphyre folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: tedrock1945 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: zachfranks (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: xxXbp38Xxx (small blind) folded before Flop
这是PS的11刀买入的MTT，的FT桌，我想请教在这样的情况下，我ALLIN是不是有点激进？我想请教在这样的情况下，我是否应该ALLIN？

作者: 0532gszy 时间: 2010-5-2 10:55
也想提个建议，论坛是否有牌普转换器？

作者: dhluo8 时间: 2010-5-2 13:20
Poker Stars $10+$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t2500/t5000 Blinds - 7 players - View hand 671810
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BB: t115293    M = 15.37
Hero (UTG): t31624    M = 4.22
UTG+1: t65998    M = 8.80
MP: t45372    M = 6.05
CO: t71144    M = 9.49
BTN: t13951    M = 1.86
SB: t79618    M = 10.62

Pre Flop: (t7500) Hero is UTG with 2

Hero raises to t17500, 5 folds, BB raises to t40000, Hero calls t14124 all in

Flop: (t65748) 2

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t65748) 4

(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t65748) 3

(2 players - 1 is all in)

作者: dhluo8 时间: 2010-5-2 13:22
Poker Stars $10+$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t2500/t5000 Blinds - 7 players - View hand 671810
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BB: t115293    M = 15.37
Hero (UTG): t31624    M = 4.22
UTG+1: t65998    M = 8.80
MP: t45372    M = 6.05
CO: t71144    M = 9.49
BTN: t13951    M = 1.86
SB: t79618    M = 10.62

Pre Flop: (t7500) Hero is UTG with 2

Hero raises to t17500, 5 folds, BB raises to t40000, Hero calls t14124 all in

Flop: (t65748) 2

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t65748) 4

(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t65748) 3

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t65748
BB shows A

(HI: two pair, Sevens and Fours; LO: 7,4,3,2,A)
Hero shows 2

(HI: two pair, Fours and Deuces; LO: 7,4,3,2,A)
BB wins t32874
BB wins t16437
Hero wins t16437

作者: dhluo8 时间: 2010-5-2 13:22
http://www.handconverter.com/

上面是转换地址

作者: dhluo8 时间: 2010-5-2 13:34
MTT就不知道，不过从普通牌来讲这手牌只是跟进的牌。
你RAISED了，被反加也只有ALL了，手上东西不多了。

作者: nano 时间: 2010-5-2 13:55
3，4，5楼虽然不是原创，但是这样帮助坛子里的朋友也够得上精化帖的意义了。每帖按精华帖的标准奖励10个智游币。欢迎常来论坛。

作者: luckypanda 时间: 2010-5-2 14:06

3，4，5楼虽然不是原创，但是这样帮助坛子里的朋友也够得上精化帖的意义了。每帖按精华帖的标准奖励10个智 ...
nano 发表于 2010-5-2 00:55

nano你好大方哦，一下子奖了30个智游币给dhlu08，看看你自己，只有9个智游币，太好笑了。

作者: RichZhu 时间: 2010-5-2 14:17
这牌没有打错。

还剩7个人，虽然后面有一个非常少的筹码，但是你自己也就只够四圈的，是不能等别人出去的。BBallin你跟就更没有什么好说的了。即便BB拿的是As2sAh4h你最不希望碰上的牌，你也只能跟了。

作者: 0532gszy 时间: 2010-5-2 15:25
谢谢大家都指教，朱前辈的回复让我明白了，我一直在考虑自己玩的对不对，最近入迷了高低比赛，在5BB左右是否ALLIN的问题上一直没把握，自己内心很不喜欢ALLIN但没筹码，没办法。

作者: 0532gszy 时间: 2010-5-3 11:09
Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t1000/t2000 Limit - 7 players - View hand 673705
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BTN: t23510    M = 15.67
SB: t12465    M = 8.31
BB: t5606    M = 3.74
UTG: t3084    M = 2.06
UTG+1: t4550    M = 3.03
Hero (MP): t11474    M = 7.65
CO: t3288    M = 2.19

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is MP with 3 :club: J :heart: 7 :spade: A :club:
2 folds, Hero calls, 1 fold, BTN calls, SB calls, BB checks

Flop: (4 SB) J :club: 5 :spade: 4 :diamond: (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (2 BB) 6 :diamond: (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, BTN raises, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls

River: (6 BB) 9 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets, Hero calls

这是我的滑铁卢，这牌过后就离死亡很近了，LIMIT和PLO差别很大呀，现在有点不习惯LIMIT了。
高低太复杂了，我感觉自己的脑子跟不上。

作者: 0532gszy 时间: 2010-5-3 11:11
PokerStars Game #43490885691: Tournament #266081885, $4.00+$0.40 USD Omaha Hi/Lo Limit - Level XII (1000/2000) - 2010/05/02 22:36:28 CCT [2010/05/02 10:36:28 ET]
Table '266081885 10' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: thunders1978 (23510 in chips)
Seat 2: taroteuz (12465 in chips)
Seat 5: MIMOMA (5606 in chips)
Seat 6: docksangel (3084 in chips)
Seat 7: Pioneer64 (4550 in chips)
Seat 8: 0532gszy (11474 in chips)
Seat 9: Noureev (3288 in chips)
taroteuz: posts small blind 500
MIMOMA: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 0532gszy [3c Jh 7s Ac]
docksangel: folds
Pioneer64: folds
0532gszy: calls 1000
Noureev: folds
thunders1978: calls 1000
taroteuz: calls 500
MIMOMA: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jc 5s 4d]
taroteuz: checks
MIMOMA: checks
0532gszy: checks
thunders1978: checks
*** TURN *** [Jc 5s 4d] [6d]
taroteuz: checks
MIMOMA: checks
0532gszy: bets 2000
thunders1978: raises 2000 to 4000
taroteuz: folds
MIMOMA: folds
0532gszy: calls 2000
*** RIVER *** [Jc 5s 4d 6d] [9d]
0532gszy: checks
thunders1978: bets 2000
0532gszy: calls 2000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
thunders1978: shows [7d 8h 2c Ah] (HI: a straight, Five to Nine; LO: 6,5,4,2,A)
0532gszy: mucks hand
thunders1978 collected 8000 from pot
thunders1978 collected 8000 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 16000 | Rake 0
Board [Jc 5s 4d 6d 9d]
Seat 1: thunders1978 (button) showed [7d 8h 2c Ah] and won (16000) with HI: a straight, Five to Nine; LO: 6,5,4,2,A
Seat 2: taroteuz (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: MIMOMA (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: docksangel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Pioneer64 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: 0532gszy mucked [3c Jh 7s Ac]
Seat 9: Noureev folded before Flop (didn't bet)

作者: RichZhu 时间: 2010-5-4 10:05
这手牌就是命不好，无论怎样打，这手牌在发第一张牌的时候就注定你要输掉很多筹码。

如果不论结果，只讨论打牌进程的话，这手牌确有商榷之处。

preflop通常要open raise，你的牌非常适合人少的锅，除了草花的A同化外，其他的没有多少大锅的潜力。open raise还是有一定机会直接拿下锅来，或者跟盲注对打。这样你不但有位置优势，而且通常牌力也占优。

flop应该下注，这对你其实是非常不错的翻牌，不应该给别人免费看牌。

就这手牌本身而言，上面这样打法可能会输得更多，但就牌本身而言，我觉得preflop和flop应该更aggressive一点。

事实上，如果你真的和button对打，preflop以及flop你的胜面都高于你的对手。这一点你可能感到意外，但确实如此。他的牌适合多人的pot，你的牌适合单挑。

作者: 0532gszy 时间: 2010-5-4 20:30
谢谢朱前辈的指导，我放假在PS连续玩了4天，拿了第一，第三，第9，今天真累了，最后玩混合比赛死在钱圈外，我怎么感觉STUD真的容易给BB呀，我3条A让对家豪斯给干了，希望能在周末的比赛好运气了。

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