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我是99肯定别人aakk才扔
伟大的墙
这个ID好熟悉，不记得在哪里见过了。hoopchina?
伟大的墙
这个ID好熟悉，不记得在哪里见过了。hoopchina?
紧凶适合于比赛的前期， 而到了比赛的中后期大家筹码变深和cash game类似， 尤其是FT。 如果你想ITM或者短筹码混进FT那么紧凶是可行的， 可若是你想夺冠那松凶的打法很才是王道
AK preflop. a tight player raise 5X sb. you are at bb. 为十么fold? 为十么不3 bet? He is unlikely to have As or Ks. Lets say he has Qs. You are close to 50% to win and you have got position and fold equities. If he is tight, he is even more likely to fold down the road scared of your bigger pair. 原来墙兄是nit. As a tight player myself, I will even 3 bet this most of the time. Same thing utg raise 5X, i am at button with AK what do I do here? call<=fold<RAISE. Call is only bad if you play fit and fold after flop. If you can use your read and position well, flat is not a bad option either. The only worry is that bb sb would come along for the odds which do your AK no good. If you see they are getting ready to fold. Call is fine too.
[quote="windstormm":s190kzqs]AK preflop. a tight player raise 5X sb. you are at bb. 为十么fold? 为十么不3 bet? He is unlikely to have As or Ks. Lets say he has Qs. You are close to 50% to win and you have got position and fold equities. If he is tight, he is even more likely to fold down the road scared of your bigger pair. 原来墙兄是nit. As a tight player myself, I will even 3 bet this most of the time. Same thing utg raise 5X, i am at button with AK what do I do here? call<=fold<RAISE. Call is only bad if you play fit and fold after flop. If you can use your read and position well, flat is not a bad option either. The only worry is that bb sb would come along for the odds which do your AK no good. If you see they are getting ready to fold. Call is fine too.
[quote="伟大的墙":3u7bpsju][quote="windstormm":3u7bpsju]AK preflop. a tight player raise 5X sb. you are at bb. 为十么fold? 为十么不3 bet? He is unlikely to have As or Ks. Lets say he has Qs. You are close to 50% to win and you have got position and fold equities. If he is tight, he is even more likely to fold down the road scared of your bigger pair. 原来墙兄是nit. As a tight player myself, I will even 3 bet this most of the time. Same thing utg raise 5X, i am at button with AK what do I do here? call<=fold<RAISE. Call is only bad if you play fit and fold after flop. If you can use your read and position well, flat is not a bad option either. The only worry is that bb sb would come along for the odds which do your AK no good. If you see they are getting ready to fold. Call is fine too.
我是99肯定别人aakk才扔
[quote="伟大的墙":kec8sf2t]
我是99肯定别人aakk才扔
如果是我
AK = all in preflop
就像专业的玩法
[quote="windstormm":1ahqvh36][quote="伟大的墙":1ahqvh36]
我是99肯定别人aakk才扔
一直以来也不知道你引用了我哪句话。
首先，你承认许多时候扔掉AK非常容易，这也是我说的扔AK的情况，既然显然到不用说了，我们争论了这么久就是废话了。
另外说的15和扔掉，我想再重新说一下。
AK，我的评价是遇强不弱，遇弱不强这么个东西，所以要用的是柔中带刚的打法。
再不遭遇AA，KK的情况下，他对任何两个对子都略微落后，包括对2,。但即使遭遇对Q，他仍然有45的盈率，所以很强。而对2，虽然略微强于AK，但遭遇对Q就非常惨。这就是为什么AK可以经常翻牌推而对2就不能。
鉴于AK的这个特点，那么你采取动作之前的死钱就成为非常关键的因素。
如果一个比较松的，经常干到15，两个靠，死钱45，你手里100，回来你推了就是非常好的打法。大家全扔了，你直接赢45，非常高兴。有一个靠了，如果他是对子（不是AA，KK）你在45%的时候用100赢130，非常划算。如果有两个靠了，就更划算，你这时候是用100去赢230了，你只需要1/3的机会赢就够了。所以，死钱比牌重要。
我说的另外一个情况，你大盲。枪口是个非常紧的选手，他出门就干到25，基本不会是AQ或者更弱的牌，基本上是AA，KK，QQ，JJ，1010和AK，大家全扔到你，如果是我，我就扔掉我的AK。因为没有任何死钱。假如我有100的话，推了他靠，遇到他的对子，我45%的时候用100赢97（水5元，其他1元，还有3元死钱），非常亏本。遇到他AK，50%的时候用100赢97，仍然是赔钱的。如果靠25的话，100还余下75，可以打，但是没位置。翻牌不出来A和K，基本他赢你的25，有了呢，很复杂，总之这样的情况我会扔掉。可能把他打走，也可能遭遇人家的三条A或者三条K，情况太复杂，不如及早了断。
但是，假如同样的情况，枪口选择100推了，他拍的范围仍然是AA，KK，QQ，JJ，1010和AK，另外一个不太紧的靠100，到我这里，我余下100就会靠。因为，我当然可能遭遇AA和KK，那很亏。但他是QQ，JJ，1010的时候，我有45%的时候能用100去赢297，一下子变成一个好投资了。
所以，如果我用100只赢回来90多，我认为投资失败。我一定要赢回来150以上，尽量在有死钱的情况下发威。没有死钱，就以最小的成本去靠，不动声色。真的出来A或者K了，再slow play，让别人多输。
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